I think they doing this beaucause they want help from UN, to protect JW in countries wher we are badley treted, when i see the new video abaout Jw Rusia it was several experrts who wac testifing even from UN.
it is wrong to use all avalibel power to protect JW in countries ther we are very badley treted, now is my answer, even if you see hypocrite inn this, i think the purpus to prtect our brothers and sisters is more important.
So for mee and I think several other who is JW this is not so bigg thing, teocratic warfare if you want, widh a good purpus.
But I dont like that they dont tell how it is,, it is more bad.
And like some here say, perhaps Bowen is cleaning the thempel.
I think this abuse thing is fare more bad.
happy man
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To All Faithful Jehovah's Witnesses...
by cyrano inhey non_trias_theos, protector of all that's holy, please explain why the watchtower 'slept' with the 'wild beast' united nations for almost ten years and continues to lie about it even now.. watchtower is lying about u.n. involvement.
"our purpose for registering with the department of public information as a nongovernmental organization (ngo) in 1991 was to have access to research material available on health, ecological, and social problems at the united nations library facilities.
we had been using the library for many-years prior to 1991, but in that year it became necessary to register as an ngo to have continued access.
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Was russel Fremason?
by happy man ini find this on unother board and i think it proof realy good that russel dont was a mason.. "there is no evidence that the 1913 discourse was an attempt to lay an issue at rest.
there is no evidence that it was.
thought that russell was a mason at the time.
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I find this on unother board and i think it proof realy good that russel dont was a Mason.
"There is no evidence that the 1913 discourse was an attempt to lay an issue at rest. There is no evidence that it was
thought that Russell was a Mason at the time. If Russell wanted to lay an issue at rest the talk would have apperared in
The Watch Tower. Russell certainly did not write a book called "The Temple". Your suggesting that he did indicates to
me that you rely entirely on secondary material and have not examined Russell´s writings carefully yourself. By the way I
gave the wrong date for his talk - my memory served me wrong. Actually the talk was given on Monday, June 16,
1913. Russell was on a tour in the West. He had given a talk in San Diego on June 14 and another one in Santa Ana on
June 15. He travelled to Portland, Oregon on June 17. There was a three days convention in San Fransisco and the hall
that was rented was owned by the Masons. This fact and nothing else seems to be the reason for his talk on "The
Temple of God". Renting masonic halls was not uncommon as such sometimes were the best halls, if not the only ones,
available. In Sweden to this day a number of masonic halls are rented by the public for all kinds of activities, simply
because they are good halls. Russell would talk to all kinds of audiences trying to spread his message and in doing so
trying to reason from the listeners´ perspective. Now my friend, Russell specifically DENIED ever having been a Mason
in his talk aimed at the Masons. He did not admit that he was one or had been one. Make sure you have what Russell
actually said and did not say!I understand you did not mean "three worlds" to refer to the three world wars you say were written about by Pike.
However, Russell still did not relate to what Pike may have stated. And his knowledge in advance was very deficient to
say the least. If you had read what Russell wrote on world conditions in every issue of his journal, you would see for
yourself that Russell´s views were based on anything but secret conspiracies.I mentioned Voltaire because he was an antisemite connected with Weisshaupt. The Rothschilds in Frankfurt were not
atheists but supporters of the ORTHODOX movement challenging the liberal one that held sway. In the end they won!
It is difficult to imagine that the Rothscilds should further a cause that was so foreign to the Jewish thinking of their
Rabbis and antisemitic at that! And The Rothschilds had not risen to any particular prominence when Weishaupt was
living, so he could hardly rely on them or draw them into any conspiracy. But I will certainly do careful research on the
Rothschilds, which I had planned to do for other reasons anyway. I surely fail to see, anyway, why the zionist
movement must be part of a conspiracy. And Russell was but one of many who was interested in zionism at the time. If
you have not read ARMAGEDDON NOW! by Dwight Wilson (1991) you will find lots of relevant information in it.It was Russell´s sister Margaret Russell Land who stated in 1907 (documented!) that she, Charles Taze, their father and
others were baptized in 1874. For young Charles this would hardly be necessary if his religious activities were merely a
fasade for his true dedication to a secret conspiracy. For as a child he must have been "baptized", being born into a
presbyterian family. Margaret says Russell was 17 when his eyes were "anointed" By God. No angelic visits mentioned
anywhere. Since Russell was only 24 years old when he met Barbour he certainly could not have known of a
conspiracy "several decades" previously. That would have been before his birth!I also want to comment on the date of his death, October 31. You indicate that the fact that this was Halloween was
significant. But people seldom choose the day they die, do they? If he had died on good Friday, would that had made
Russell more palatable? Lots of people die on October 31.Russell did not arrange for a pyramid to stand on the Society´s burial ground. It is not mentioned in his Will. It was not
built until a few years later, which would be unthinkable if it had been his idea.Russell consistently wrote against Christians supporting the Masons and other secret orders. The most natural
explanation is that he meant what he wrote and that, hence, he was not a mason, just as he at least twice stated he had
never been. To this day the Society is opposed to membership of secret lodges. There are example of this given in the
literature and I personally know one case myself. A successful saleman I know had to give up all ties to the Odd
Fellows before he could be accepted for baptism. He made a deal with his former friends that he would never reveal
what he had experienced and he says he would not dare to do so.It was good that you expanded on what you consider evidence for Russell´s secret agenda. I will check on it, but
without SOLID PROOF from some letter or membership lists what you state remains unconvincing.I may write you directly. It seems nobody else will enter the discussions anyway."
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stockholm syndrome
by openminded incheck this out:.
stockholm syndrome .
``they weren't bad people.
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As coming from sweden i can tell you that one of this men was almost a hero inn sweden a litel of bonnie and clyde style, he was very hansome and nice looking man, who was a favorite for the media, he later was leaving the krimelife as he said, until one day he was taken inn a drug afair, and is now in prision for long time,sad story.
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Is Bill Bowen "cleansing the temple?"
by blindfool ini borrowed another tape recording from my mothers church.. in this sermon the pastor described how the jews were obsessed with their temple.
so much so that they really started worshipping the temple itself.
one obsession was how clean the temple had to stay.
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happy man
Hello Craw, is it realy you, remember happy man?
i hope to miss you when i left timothys board, dont they want to listen to you anymore ther, remember our battels, dont try to take them upp again, but ofcourse its nice too see you around.
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The Society's Plan: An Overview
by metatron inthe watchtower's leaders know that storm clouds.
are forming above their corrupted heads - and they have.
formulated a response.. first, tons of emphasis on armageddon - rabble rousing.
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happy man
This is a very iontesting topic, i and a few others iin my cong have notice this alomost whorship who gov body want, on the asambly day inn the last spech they say, what ever happend trust Jehova, even if it sounds like bad news, waith for jehova to ackt. And sure we now that they say they are ,jehovas woice on earth.
In the lateast littratur like the Isaiah book,they even hade pictures of some of the gov body, i think they are very near to go over the line, isnt there some peopel in the gov body who have there mind clear.
Inn watchtower 1975 i read of the names as come inn 28 of november 1974, it was, Loyd Barry, John Both, Edward Chitty, Charls fekel, Theodor Jaracz, Karl Klein,Albert Shröder, Daniel Sydlik.The rest was innthis time, F Franz,R Franz, K greenless, G Gangas, John Groh.
Miltin henschel. W jacksson, NH Knorr, G Suiter, L Swingel.
Some of this is dead, some have left like R franz, Greenless?
perhaps some here can give some uppdate so we now who is the sheep and who is the wolfs, beaucause i am sure we have some wolfs inside the leadarsheep, and jehova will punnish them for this arogant atitud and place themselfs in high positions. -
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who the hell is hildabinger&mystikool?
by airwlk149 inok- lately i have been reading more and more posts and i see hildabinger and mystikool replying to posts supporting the wts.
are they active jw's counting time for repling to posts... am i correct?
is that why hilda's name is crossed out?
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happy man
Well Matty, as you see hee you have another active JW , from Swedenm these who follow my nicname now that i hade ben a JW all my life, and also elder for over 20 year, when i firstreadthis site i read that it was fore JW and others who hade intrest inn the subjekt.
Took me awhile to understan it was a XJW site, but as i see it it is intrestingtoo se the other site of the qoin.
And ofcourse some informaition as you get here you dont have inn the organisaition, as the UN thing, or here in Sweden even childabuse thing,when i told my PO, he have no idea of this ,and was wery confused.
" of nmy 5 children is not JW, and this boys are atacking me evry day widh subjekts who they read on internet, so when the PO ask if i rely read on evel EXJW sites, i must saym my boys tell this and this, and i have to check it out, and to my bigg surprise a lot of it was truth,so i think we have to akcept that internet i s here and it is a fantastic media for information. Exaitings times for us all,who nows, Jehova perhaps use this things too punnish his slave on earth, as hee doing to the nation of israel, when there kings was out of order.
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WHATS THIS ?
by happy man ini find this on a link, this surprice mee, as we all now, ekonomic info is secret, who comes that we can read this figures, it is fakeor something els, if it is the truth, it must bee sensationell info.. http://www.newsday.com/business/printedition/ny-cvtop52369349sep17.story?coll=ny%2dbusiness%2dprint
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happy man
I find this on a link, this surprice mee, as we all now, ekonomic info is secret, who comes that we can read this figures, it is fakeor something els, if it is the truth, it must bee sensationell info.
http://www.newsday.com/business/printedition/ny-cvtop52369349sep17.story?coll=ny%2Dbusiness%2Dprint
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WT DOES OWN MILITARY STOCK!!!!!!!!!!
by deddaisy in[ profile above ] re: how many awakes would i have to sell?
madapostate and mccullough,.
either you're very bad researchers, or you're wt-ites....i don't understand how you, madapostate, can claim to be such a good researcher and seem to find, without any effort, the sources of the wts writers' material for the awake, yet not find, in all your research, the fact that regi is , in fact, owned by the wts...weird, huh?....it's too late, i've already submitted, weeks ago, all the documentation to:.
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Amaizing, what is this info?
http://www.newsday.com/business/printedition/ny-cvtop52369349sep17.story?coll=ny%2Dbusiness%2Dprint
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Farewell Party for a DO
by Defender inmy old congregation that i used to attend threw a farewell party tonight for the do who is being relocated to another district out west.
i went along with my wife just to see old friends in the hall.
all the elders know about my situation, yet continue to treat me cordially, at least for the time being.
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happy man
And why didnt you take the occasion to ask him some qestion, abaot UN, or abuse in the organisation,pitty.
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happy man
Hello.
I dont now who you are, if you can tell me your nick name or something as i new, i must have it before i email you, you must bee carefull, inn this trubbel days,
greatings from sweden.